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the record, your initials are H.G., is that correct? was it at that point that Brad left with the individual you described as
Q: So would this have been an area that was not in the total view of
on between you and Heather? A: When I was turning by the between the time I got in the truck
A: We were directed to perform oral sex on each other and then to perform
A: They sent Aaron back in and Jason out. Q: Was there any place for Jason to put his clothes? there wasn't a table. They beat the men and raped the women. MR. WATCHTELL: Might we see them, your honor? A: Good morning. Q: Do you recall who it was that was assigned, if you will, to the master
the term it was like Buckwheat. look at him? A: Once everybody got back, after a few minutes I was called out of
Q: Are you able to identify whether or not those people are in this
it or anything else about it? ASSOCIATED PRESS A: We sat there. Q: That was the comment that you said earlier? Q: So Heather would have been on the northernmost Q: location with Aaron next to her, is that right? approximate time period. A: He turned off al the lights. Q: Why was it that you were unable to make any definite description
A: I thought it was Aaron coming in, so I just rolled over, and then
Q: And his last name is spelled H-E-Y-K-A, is that correct? The Wichita Massacre, also known as the Wichita Horror, was a week-long series of random brutal crimes perpetrated by brothers Reginald and Jonathan Carr in the city of Wichita, Kansas between December 8 and 15, 2000. I know the difference between the ones that has the round
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They are now currently sitting on Death Row in Kansas' El Dorado Correctional Facility. Kind of mid thigh, not short, black coat. A: He didn't have an erection either, but there was penetration. Q: Approximately how long after the cars had been parked on this road
Q: When you told them that you didn't have money, did they excuse
Q: Once you had identified or the other occupants of the house had been
Brad was in the house and that Heather was also in the house. it be correct that he had no clothes on at that time? know where it hit me. and there was a gun lying on the ground. I don't know which one. was the fat one or the skinny one? Would this be the bathroom
the return trip? residence with Jason? That said, we're in two minds about publishing the story and wanted to ask your thoughts. or could you identify one or the other? yourself and Heather Muller? Q: Other features at that time you were not able to distinguish, is
Q: Can you describe for us the demeanor or how that person acted when
Q: And this would have been in a bathroom off the hallway, is that right? There is another bedroom that does not have a bathroom
Q: And the one that always left, which one was that or who do you describe
Q: You said that this thinner one of the intruders did not have an afro
what led you to believe it was FUBU? Q: Did you then continue on through the field to a location where you
Q: Do you know where Heather was at that time? room lights. The skinnier of the two
Q: Can you tell us what happened in the order in which this occurred. Q: When you left Greenwich Road, was the area surrounding this location
there and that Aaron had slept on the couch. of that digital clock? Q: Would it be normal for Heather to stay at that location. Q: Then the next person to come out of that room would have been? A: No. in a square shaped marks. A: They asked Jason. Were you still in the location on the bed? have been in cash, is that right? It comes off your head, but it comes off like a helmet. I don't remember
see anybody running. Q: And do you recall once they had left the residence where everyone
area, if I were to be standing approximately in the closet area inside
Q: So instead of just one door to get into a room, this had two with
many people did you observe at that time at that location? A: I was directed to do it first, and Heather was directed to do it
Q: Would that be Aaron Sanders, is that correct? what information you could regarding those people, is that correct? Q: Were you able to contrast the two individuals so that we can talk
it was crowded with the two of you in there, is that right? MS. FOULSTON: Your Honor, I would ask the Court if the defendants would
A: They wanted Heather and I to come out into the wet bar area. A: We were asked or directed to come out into the wet bar area. Q: Were you able to note whether any other cars belonging to the occupants
might have lived at that residence? Were you taken to another location? Q: Reflecting to the traveling down Greenwich Road from 127th over to
The Wichita Massacre is a tragic story, but the incredible bravery of the lone survivor is to be admired. There is a halogen lamp over
Q: Do you recall what happened after Brad was unable to fully penetrate
Q: Had you seen her when you arrived back from the ATM? Q: A big screen is a fairly large television? From the first gunshot went off by the time I was kneeling, I'd say
THE EIGHTEENTH JUDICIAL DISTRICT DISTRICT COURT, SEDGWICK COUNTY, KANSAS
Q: When you returned back to the residence on Birchwood, where did you
A: After I couldn't get any more money out, I asked him if he wanted
He had always been an outdoors type so his job as assistant baseball coach at Newman University in Wichita Kansas, suited him perfectly. in the closet. Q: When you when he was unable to have a full erection, was there
felt an impact with your body, do you know approximately where your body
point in time were you able to see him to visualize his hair? a trunk." a little bit later I heard him ask Heather whose this was, and she said
hit me. Q: Were you able to tell if the hairs were separated because they were
And when you were with Heather, was there any conversation
There was blood squirting everywhere, so I took off my sweater, and
already told you, just the phone in the kitchen." Q: Do you know whether any of your personal items like your wallet or
and some stereo equipment that belonged to Jason Befort, is that right? the only thing you could see. Jason didn't have one
A: I felt the bullet hit the back of my head. A: Someone had kicked me, and I had fallen forward. do you have recollections of what you heard or observed? Q: And we had some discussion about your Schnauzer dog named Nikki,
Q: And did you notice any shirt or was it just the sweater that you
Q: Did you ever get to go and use that television down there? watching that television show? digital penetration. I didn't see. taking people to the ATM, is that right? bit, they made him go back in the room, and then Jason came out. Q: And they admitted you into their residence? you had at that time? I
In all, the Carr brothers robbed, raped or murdered seven people. A: It's directly outside of his bedroom window. Thanks to her detailed description of the perpetrators, a news broadcast was issued immediately, and one day later neighbors at a nearby apartment building reported two men that matched the suspects' description hauling a big screen TV (taken from Jason Befort's home) up the stairs. Q: Do you know how long Jason stayed out in the foyer with Heather? The brothers robbed, raped and executed four young people in what came to be called the Wichita Massacre. Then he asked
Q: And there were still two individuals at that time in the general
of the five people raised their hands? were? Q: When you were called, summoned from that closet, did you at that
He was tired of relaying information, so he handed me the
Q: At the time that you were forced to leave the residence somewhere
area? 96 Highway and into a road that had like a median in the middle of it. it? Q: All right. Q: Was he then removed from the residence? correct? where the dining room table goes. Holly Glover Schreiber (@hollyschreiber04) Instagram photos and videos hollyschreiber04 23 posts 260 followers 333 following Holly Glover Schreiber This Account is Private Already follow hollyschreiber04? Q: Approximately how long a period of time did you spend at that ATM
Q: Was there any conversation by him regarding these withdrawals at
you shut the door, but on its own. Q: When you initially went to withdraw the money, did you roll the window
the your body parts that touched her body parts? Q: After you heard Aaron talking, were you able to tell in what tone
Q: Approximately how long would Brad have been out in that area? A: That's when Jason turned to me, and that's when Brad turned to me
Did you A: There were three or four cars that were traveling north on Greenwich,
Q: And was there any talk or discussion you could hear between the two
"That's for you," Jason Befort said in a flat voice to HG; " I was going to propose on Christmas Eve.". looked at me, and then Brad looked at me, and that was it. about where the keys are or looking for the keys, were you able at that
A: She was growling and had her teeth bared. Q: And where were you? So they took Jason's. Wichita Massacre: Part 2. in the vehicle? Q: After you had withdrawn the full amount of money that you could get
Can you tell
THE COURT: Two, Three, Four, and Five are admitted. area where the bed was actually located? initially was at your door of the bedroom, could you distinguish if that
detail for us any conversation or activity that occurred when he was with
A: Like clumpy, spiky, not all together, bits of hair clumped together. A: I don't remember. television? activity occurred, is that correct? I describe it as sometimes you can buy that yarn that
Q: When you got to the residence, did you have a key to that location? on at 9:00. me if he was better than my boy. you were lying on the ground pretending to have died? to place his penis into your vagina? Q: And were you able to see a clock at that time or did you just hear
Q: And would it be usual if you stayed over for you to get up early
Q: Time wise you said initially you referred to the time as 2:07, the
one of them stayed behind. Q: ER would be a television show, is that correct? He went downstairs to talk
MS. FOULSTON: I'll offer them at this time. or directions given to you by the person who was in the vehicle with you? A: The skinny one instructed me to get on all fours and get myself wet,
immediate it was parked behind Aaron's car. papers and Brad is somewhere downstairs somewhere along the line then comes
time did you know that there was only one intruder in the home? have the opportunity to put any clothing on? Q: Triplex. doors would you have on that closet? Q: Now, at the time that this was occurring, how many individuals were
Q: Was there something blocking your vision of the other two numbers
Q: Do you recall what, if anything, Aaron might have said at that time? Q: And at the time that you went into the room were you directed to
morning hours. Jan 03, 2019 02:41PM. Q: Do you know whether or not he had any leather apparel on his hands? A: I sat in the truck for a few minutes while the other guy got out. room by the door. Will he be permitted to keep
Q: Do you know whether or not at that time you heard anything that sounded
He told me to get down on all fours, and
the closet, would you be closer to me or farther away than me if you were
I crossed 96 highway, climbed
One of them is shut because there is a, like a Q: From the sound of the voices were you able to determine if one or
Q: So the question is "Does anybody have an ATM card?" Q: And then you said at some point in time there was a suggestion of
Q: The bedroom that was used by Jason, did it have any particular kind
Q: And those individuals would be in the doorway to the bedroom? regard to this sexual intercourse? The snow was pink, and spotted with red. Do you recall that testimony, do you not? Q: Did you have any further discussion in the vehicle at that time? He said "No, I
did you take any action to restrain your dog? Heather looked at me. And Aaron said "The phone in the kitchen. Q: Was your face covered in any manner at that time? It was just woven, and it had big, black letters on it, and it
Q: Approximately how long did this activity go on? that you were aware of? that you were giving them the right information? Q: When you had last seen it that evening before retiring, had it been
Let's take the break now. Aaron and Heather they
A: We started going to the ATMs. were the intruders? Facebook gives people the power. Do you recall that? Q: The individual who was taking you from the residence, did you have
I'm going to hand you what's been marked for identification
HG settled in front of the TV and began grading papers when Heather Muller, a friend of Aaron Sander's showed up. way it was going? Q: When you returned back in, did you see the second intruder still
me again. Q: After the sexual activity had occurred with both you and Heather,
Q: And were you aware of the fact that Brad was asleep or did you have
Q: When you arrived at that residence who was there? Q: In State's Exhibit #3 there is a female depicted. Q: And would there have been any other cars in the garage at that time? Q: Did these gunshots appear to be succession with Heather receiving
"Don't tell me I have to get up and turn the lights off again.". A: He's that cartoon guy, that Little Rascals guy. of them? and I thought they were coming back to run me over again, and then you
90,044. for you, is that correct? relation to the louvered doors? Q: When you returned to the residence, Aaron then had been the last
Heather
he had told me prior to that he wasn't going to shoot me, and he said he
And then I heard -- there was
he wished we would have met under different circumstances because I was
Q: When everyone was in the room, all the members of the home and their
When you refer to Nikki, we know that is the terrier Schnauzer
right? Jason and your pup Nikki were there in the room, did anything unusual occur? and shutting off the lights? Q: Had she been continuously barking or growling? A: In the same general vicinity of the wet bar. that time? Twelve years later their appeal was heard by the Kansas. MS. FOULSTON: Your Honor, one of our family members has an oxygen tank. Q: Did that help you assess more that the person who you were seeing
of change, and I heard him pick that up. Q: Was it at this point when you felt pressure being put on you being
Q: Did he immediately return back to the closet? them. Q: Thank you. There is another bathroom. They were sentenced in 2002. Q: And again, was that the same type of moan that you had heard and
He asked
of entry doors to get into it? Q: Did he say anything to you about how they had been caused? Q: Could you see any outlines of people or any characteristics of those
because he had to get up. white like stars. you in front of that wet bar. When HG heard the Carr brothers drive off, she called out to her friends. Q: Now, the room that we're speaking of, Jason's bedroom, the closet
Q: Now ma'am, you indicated that in this line of individuals you were
Q: You said that Aaron's car was in the garage. guys got into Aaron's car. skinny one was standing by the wet bar. There was kind of like a dirt road that was behind a subdivision,
that correct? A: No, I'm assuming she was in Aaron's bedroom. in first and kind of pulled in front of the median, and Jan's truck was
Q: And Brad, when he was brought from downstairs, do you recall what
They were convicted on almost every count, and were sentenced to the death penalty. Q: And what did this tall black male do at that time? Q: And were you able to continue to observe this individual? In the cold, pre-dawn hours of December 15, 2000, police deputy Matthew Lynch looked down at the snow in a lonely soccer field in Wichita, Kansas. clothes off"? Q: Were you able to identify other than the black coat I believe you
He currently works as a classroom teacher at c ompanyName. A: He ripped the covers off the bed, and I don't remember what he said. Q: When you came out of the closet and into the bedroom area, did you
Q: Can you tell us what happened, how it was that you left the room
Q: At some point in time did Aaron return to the residence? Holly Glover Schreiber is the name. Q: And you were then in the passenger side of the truck? A: I believe it was the taller of the two. Q: When you go back into the closet, what, if anything, do you hear
31 May, 2015 3 WELCOME to American Dissident Voices. A: Had you ever used that machine before? inches taller than I am. with weapons. way did you then see Jason, Aaron, and Brad? And then I was kicked, and then I
Q: Did Jason say anything when the covers were ripped off? Q: At the time when you were in bed and ready to go to sleep and Jason
he was looking, and the fat one was walking around with them while the
I didn't fall all the
cute and we probably would have hit it off. I was taken Heather sat closest
he looked up. Q: You're making some motions with your hand. There is a bedroom upstairs with the master bath
I talked to him for a few minutes. Q: And in that regard, did you usually try and have regular bedtime
did you have an opportunity to know where Heather and Aaron were at that
He asked me if I liked being
anybody stand until she identifies them first. me through it. Q: Have you seen weapons that are other colors than silver? Q: Do you see those people in the courtroom today? Q: You said on the evening of December 14 that you went to that location
Q: Let's talk about the one that has the round thing. He was forced at gunpoint to drive around east Wichita, withdrawing money from ATMs. Q: Now in this particular location were all the areas of the residence
doors to the bedroom were opened or shut? You know, you can
her examination of H.G.). Q: So in addition to ceiling lighting there was also some stationary,
Q: Did you form any impression of who that might be at the time? Q: Would that be close to some type of window or doorway? Medical personnel later determined that the metal barrette in HG's hair had deflected the bullet's impact and had saved her life. Q: When you started to run that direction, did you travel by the main
Q: When you went to withdraw money, do you recall how much you requested
Q: So you could see a weapon, is that right? Q: Do you know how long it was before those individuals left the immediate
I saw his clothing. befort? A: There was nothing obstructing it, but he was sitting back, so I didn't
A: I walked in front of him over to the bathroom. Q: And are you able to judge the height and weight by those, by that
So I talked to the 911 operator. He also ransacked the house and found a diamond ring stashed inside a coffee can. I don't know where they were. at that time? I had a bunch of boxes that the Christmas decorations
They're solid, but they
A: There are lamps in the living room. I'm not going to have
the lights of that vehicle? was on the floor closest to the foot of the bed, and Brad was on the floor. On September 9, Reginald Carr and his brother Jonathan go on trial for what has become known as the Wichita Massacre. Q: Directing your attention back to the residence on East Birchwood,
Q: And again, at this time, at 2:07 in the morning, what the conditions
A: After he had tried and penetrated as much as possible for a little
taller, thinner, or the thinner one of the two intruders? Q: When you called and talked with 911, were you able to clearly recall
horizontally. Ed note: So far in this column, we've posted about a genius high school drop-out who conned his way through surgeries and Yale, a cheerleader who masterminded a small town bank robbery with her policeman husband, and a man who hijacked a cargo jet. A: I was under the impression that it was a ring from events that happened
Q: Do you recall whether or not you were able to see his hair or was
A: Besides the fat one had on a black coat, longer. Q: Were you the third person in a row then that was taken to the ATM? There are ceiling lights over the wet
Jonathan Carr. Q: Was there a discussion by the intruders regarding the vehicles or
been discussing, from 11:00 to approximately the midnight hour, in all
A: The other intruder and Heather were in the front seat of Aaron's
area at the time when this individual was out rummaging around? A: At that time I turned to Heather and I said "They're going to shoot
at the time that you entered into that closet and the other two had left? A: Yes, because the bathroom light was on, and when I opened the door
A: After the guys knelt in front of the car, we were directed out of
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Q: What time normally would you go to sleep? penetration was to do it deeper. got to lie to me." A: I was called it a couple different times. Q: Were you aware that either or both of those individuals were armed
A: Kind of just spaced out, shocked, in shock. He made sure that the doors were locked,
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