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MIJA RIEDEL: Who gave you the bag of clay? I enjoy going out. And thank God we have critics and writers to fill in the gaps for us. [Laughs.] [Affirmative.] Berkley? 2 from 2, goes better with less fingers apparently. [Affirmative.] NEIL WILLIAMS: [Laughs.] And so he had discipline of throwing and formulating on clay and materials; glazes and firing wood kilns and things that I was really fascinated with when I was young, because it was a great introduction to realizing how many different hatsI mean you have to be a chemist. NEIL WILLIAMS: And show sheand I knew there was something extremely special, and I didn't have an art background. NEIL WILLIAMS: That's what I meant about speaking in incomplete sentences, and then realizing instinctively what she wanted and what she needed help with. MIJA RIEDEL: We were talking about episodes or periods of work. I am, and I. I'd love to have more commercial success, because it would buy me the ability and the security to make better and more beautiful work, I think. You know, I love going up the coast. NEIL WILLIAMS: Well, it was always, like she saidagain coming out of the Crocker retrospectivewhich was our first major, like, together, helping her install pieces because there-she had stuff delivered there that I hadn't seen before, and was like, "Will you put all this stuff together?" MIJA RIEDEL: And what would you bring to those classes? He didn't,change the""He didn't"you know, that simple, pretty simple. That's whatparaphrasing is probably not completely accurate, but that's what I got out of that. And he was the director of SACOG Council of Governments in Sacramento. One of those classic, magnificent madams that happened to be a teacher. NEIL WILLIAMS: But it was funny, because she would get so scattered that she would almost like self-implode on the verbiage. NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh my God, right herethat's a whole other disc I think. Do you have anything more to say about that? NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh yes. The brothers both weighed between 10st and 11st whereas Neil was on the small side. NEIL WILLIAMS: from Arts and Crafts, art school days, I gravitated back here. NEIL WILLIAMS: We had spoken earlier evenMark Twain and H.P. So. And, I understand she has since passed, but last I heard, there was an amazing cache of two floors or three floors of antiques and such that are kind of lying dormant. Cutting can disintegrate. MIJA RIEDEL: Yeah. I've always had a fondness for him. NEIL WILLIAMS: I thought so, too. 0000011773 00000 n
And he's trying to pull the plate away, and she's growling at him, and she's got her arms around the doughnut and it's likeI said, "Oh Charles, I don't know", [END OF TRACK william14_1of3_sd_track01. [Affirmative. You knowis the intention of the artist clear in this piece? Lovecraft as writers had landed here. NEIL WILLIAMS: Love, they care, and they get what you're doing and want to do with your life, and they make a contribution however they can. He was opening a gallery, I love your work, I'd like to get some pieces. The idea that whatever ailed you one side, if you were to pass through there in thoughtin a way, on the other side, you would come out refreshed and rejuvenated. She was just sitting in the wheelchair, "No, I'm not going to.". NEIL WILLIAMS: You know, I paint houses, whatever it takes. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. I'm not dead yet. MIJA RIEDEL: and yours have a little bit of that sensibility. You know, making art and celebrate safely. And, were you working in clay at the high school? That. NEIL WILLIAMS: There's galleries that are rare and unique and have majesty to them. Remember, there is a power that can cause those things to happen that need to happen, and that power comes from your faith in Jesus Christ., As an Apostle of the Lord, Elder Andersen blessed students to feel the Saviors hands reaching out as they reach out to Him. Despite Jim Cassidy's best efforts BASHAASH still won the first at Canterbury tonight. Read more of Church News coverage of devotionals here, President and Sister Worthen on prophets, promises and logokophosis, at BYU devotional, Elder Andersen encourages BYUPathway students to believe in yourself; trust in the Lord, Elder Andersens visit to the Pacific leaves members with increased faith in Jesus Christ. Well, started off with stencils and brush, and then it went to some of the molds and even some thick-lined Egyptian paste she would make, which would melt and fuse onto it. But there was also part of the delight for her too because shethe magic she always felt about seeing things coming out of the kiln for the first time. They're nothing if not curvilinear. May you find comfort knowing that life continues forever in heaven even as the memories shared live forever in our hearts. I'm not egocentric enough. Andwriters, there are so many of them, there are so many good ones. NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh, she hadI mean she had Charles and Rena and Art [Nelson] and Squeak and. Not to worry. longest barstool employees; nchsaa track and Two weeks ago, Damar Hamlin fell to the ground, seemingly lifeless, during an NFL football game. 9:30 a.m.12:00 p.m. I would think they were more personal narratives. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Enter your account data and we will send you a link to reset your password. Well, by the time they finished them, they had a dedication ceremony, and Buckminster Fuller came out to dedicate it because it was based on his geodesic dome design, and he was absolutely enthralled. NEIL WILLIAMS: and Marjorie, before she passed away, a few years agomy mother passed away nine, 10 years agoand Marjorie passed away just last year. "Ah, that makes sense to me. How will you withstand the temptations and pressures that seek to diminish your faith in Jesus Christ? And so I don't know where it came fromhis Buffalo Soldier, you know, his Native American, Indian, or just his spirituality of knowing that he was there for a higher calling orbut really unique guy, real interesting. NEIL WILLIAMS: And, so it was immediate, but it was also reallyfascinating to me. Or should I change that?" NEIL WILLIAMS: And she was in her wheelyou know Maria Martinez. I'll say one thing, Lucky Leak wouldn't have won at Canterbury had Jim Cassidy ridden it as programmed. So, I think I gravitated towards vessel-making, and connected with it immediately, and it's certainly evolved to other things, NEIL WILLIAMS: but it gave me a discipline, and it gave me sense of accomplishment and self-respect, I think, that was healthy and, NEIL WILLIAMS: it made me realize that it was possible to pursue this. However, that experience also helped her better understand the Saviors Atonement. MIJA RIEDEL: So this must have been early on, before she had. New York , NY 10010, Washington, D.C. Headquarters and Research Center. Maybe starting with the plates. 0000002946 00000 n
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And had a really good eye, and was able toeven though it was a high school setting, talk and articulate advanced concepts of composition, color, and imagery. MIJA RIEDEL: You said something yesterday that I want to go back and revisit briefly. So, there's a meditative, you have to beI have to be in the rightyou know, and being a big guy with club hands isI like that. MIJA RIEDEL: So were you there, as the pieces got bigger and bigger, part of designing the infrastructure that enabled them to get that large? There's athere can be a, MIJA RIEDEL: It starts off feeling so personal. Gosh, who was there then, [Vernon] Coykendall, NEIL WILLIAMS: Boy, I can't think of who else was then. I can do that painting. MIJA RIEDEL: And where they all fired multiple times? They were having to dress him and shave him, and he was still doing some spectacular paintings. It was a little vanity gallery and. But he did it elsewhere. Brisbane Jockey Premiership Past Winners Year Winner 2015 Jim Byrne 2014 Michael Cahill 2013 Michael Cahill 2012 Chris Munce 2011 Chris Munce 2010 Stahthi Katsidis 2009 Scott Scriven 2008 [Affirmative.] In high school, there were ceramics classes? So, she encouraged that and nurtured that very heavily, but, MIJA RIEDEL: It was almost an unconscious sense of personal experience, from what I understand, because none of the work equated directly to her own personal experience, but somehow. "It just takes a while to clean some of the dead wood out of those programs.". And Viola finally just said, "Let's play with clay", MIJA RIEDEL: and took out the clay, and they all just sat there at the kitchen table, MIJA RIEDEL: working with clay. NEIL WILLIAMS: So these kinds of things came out of 1974. MIJA RIEDEL: I think she arrived in '70 or so. MIJA RIEDEL: Or a challenge, because it brings the work into a different perspective. And I never thought of myself as a teacher, as more of a vehicle. WebNeil Williams horse jockey, racing stats, runners and news from Racing and Sports. She's not a there's no excuses not to be successful, not to do your work. NEIL WILLIAMS: at the same time I gotthe quality, I think, was there. We've talked about the five year, MIJA RIEDEL:steps forward, or focus on front, or backs. And then they'll bump somebody out and it's like, what happened to that person? And then, their influence, because Viola, and being around her, looking at art history, falling in love with everyone from Kandinsky to Gorky to Rothko. And I said, "Do you know anyone down here that might be interested in them?" Behind him are BYU students who shared testimonies and experiences during his address. And cutting and supporting it properly, cutting it as it dries and then having it unfold or restructuring it as it dries, because the carving is a process, a multistage process, where I just don't cut it and carve it. Pretty simple. So, there is awhat we talked about earlier, that good art should ask more answersmight ask more questions than it answers. Violayou suggest and you try and have ahelp guide her. NEIL WILLIAMS: And I thought it was much simpler than that, and muchnot that it hasn't been a rich life, butI've never been one to draw a lot of attention to myself, like consciously. WebRacing and Sports is a technology, data, digital and media company that services the global racing and wagering industry, and has been a trusted racing industry provider for over 20 years. So, hewas really supportive of the arts and creativity. I was reading one recently, Missing 411, and that's about all of the people who go missing in our national parks over the last 100 years, and how they vanish mysteriously, either never to be found or found and not recall what happened oryou know, from children to adults andthis writer was tipped off by a national park ranger anonymously, that, "You should look into this, because they keep it quiet." Was she making them as whole figures? How could I make any kind of an image or a contribution to that?" And when I started meeting them and seeing their collections, it was like, "Oh my goodness." MIJA RIEDEL: Beautiful, functional pots, vase and lidded jars. And someone else said, "It's 90 percent labor and 10 percent magic." And she honestly defended it and believed that a good pot is art if you look at history. So usually we got them in two. [Affirmative.] It was very liberating accepting that putting myself into a period or a point that it's, like good art should ask more questions than it answers. NEIL WILLIAMS: I've always been able to make and sell good pots. ", MIJA RIEDEL: I actually had a question about that, too. And, I'm still stuck in that, that mode. NEIL WILLIAMS: In their work, and inalso, in them as human beings. She used to work there in the summers, she liked being around the students. NEIL WILLIAMS: I'm feeling much better, thank you. And she bought most of them and took them home with her. MR], cup or teapot shows. He is creative, passionate about his work, quirky, self-motivated but above all, has a huge heart and is so pleasant to work with. MIJA RIEDEL: This is Mija Riedel with Neil Williams at the artist's home and studio in Auburn California on June 6, 2014 for the Smithsonian Archives of American Art, card number two. But it should have something more than just being a painting or a sculpture. 0000003077 00000 n
She had a very infectious giggle. NEIL WILLIAMS: And it didn't make sense to me right away, but there's no reason why it alldrawing and painting color can't apply to a simple vessel. Asa Creative Director, Head of Copy and creative, I have worked for some of London's best agencies and gained international experience developing multi-platform campaigns and leading cross-functional departments. NEIL WILLIAMS: I alwayscertainly positive energy. NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh, some Pre-Columbian work. So there's a certain similarity and consistency, and there's a certain comfort in that. She had so much going on, and she was building things so big, and they were getting so over the top in scale. So, it's a good fit so far. But she'd alsowe're doing these bricoleur, these junk pieces out of the cast molds, that I thought were absolutely fascinating. WebWilliams was born in 1934 in Canada and educated in Wales, where he first learned to fly in 1951. Switch to the light mode that's kinder on your eyes at day time. Mija Riedel has reviewed the transcript. And he said, you know, they look like, "She's crazy; she's definitely crazy. They weren't directly involved with contributing to the production of her work. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. But. But it's, again, trying to embrace that 10 percent magic. And he talked aboutViola's a cottage artist. Elder Andersen referenced the talk given by Elder Jeffrey R. Holland of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles and Sister Patricia Holland a week ago during the Worldwide Devotional for Young Adults about hope. [Laughs.]. NEIL WILLIAMS: And it was nice for me, because it opened upyou know, they would come back and they'd see some larger pieces, and they wouldand it helped. NEIL WILLIAMS: And you know L.A. had to be kicking themselves over that, because then they realized, "Oh my gosh, this guy's got 2,000 paintings and for thousands"he's got a billion dollars' worth of artwork, and he did it because he had such a great eye, and he could afford to buy. And now him, her, and Squeak kind of went back and forth at a certain time when Squeak was getting out and getting established. It's overwhelming. NEIL WILLIAMS: And the delight, again, back to the plates and the delight of the plates , no matter what the historians need to say about them, there was a bottom line, just pure delight in making them, just like it was pulling things out of the kiln for the first time. It was hard work, physically, but I knew it was special. You know, in that relationand how an ism is born when the art world is going one way and somebody does a 90 degree, that's where isms come from. NEIL WILLIAMS: Episodes not likeas in seizures? They were on the outs. You do a series of three pieces. NEIL WILLIAMS: And we all have our angels but, you know, Viola had hers. NEIL WILLIAMS: There was a local community college here that we stopped sending students to because therethey weren't doing anything. So, she was protective of her in a very dignified way. NEIL WILLIAMS: And, as a child, you perceive an object and you react to it; you practice it. She would just clutch, and she'd have a connection with it, and once it got in her hands, it wasn't leaving. The camelyou know, all those little figurines, they were wanting to explore, like she said, small figurines on a colossal, larger-than-life-size scale. NEIL WILLIAMS: And the quote coming out of that was that she said, "You have to remain compulsive and leave some work unfinished. NEIL WILLIAMS: He washe's got the body of Schwarzenegger, still in his seventies, and is strong, and the face and voice of Morgan Freeman. MIJA RIEDEL: Are there any critics or writers that have been significant to you, you've learned from or appreciated or. MIJA RIEDEL: What was significant about Mario? Is there any relationship between your production work and your one-of-a-kind pieces? NEIL WILLIAMS: Completely positive, radiant. But, the other rub about that was myit's not a rub, it was a good thing. And the tragedies arewe all have tragedies. He likes doing ceramics, just simple little things on the wheel. On Friday 17 July 2009, Tyrone Leonard Williams rode all four winners at the Langholm Racing Association meeting at Castleholm in Langholm, just one of many flapping tracks that the former professional jockey rode at once he'd 'retired' in 2005. The law states that we can store cookies on your device if they are strictly necessary for the operation of this site. NEIL WILLIAMS: You know, cut and carved, three feet or so in diameter. And such a cacheit's funny because at this party I remember, Richard Shaw and Arneson and Manuel coming in, Neri coming in, and looking around the backyard, and they hadn't been there, and there was a period, there was this silence, looking around and I was standing and listening toI can't recall who said it. The entire Buffalo Bills team knelt on the field and prayed for their teammate. Been 16, 15 now. This is what I'm supposed to be doing." And people were looking in and were discovering what a powerhouse of knowledgenot only just a clay person but a painter, and an artist she was. It's like another great thing I learned that I certainly borrowed from biology, talked about clay and mark making, and how making marks in clay, you're starting to develop your own vocabulary by doing that. NEIL WILLIAMS: a composition, the clarity of image, the figure groundwork in the paintings and the charcoal, or the pastels. ), digital, wav; 101 Pages, Transcript. Just simple little techniques, pressure, consistent squeezing. That's why a lot of those people end up with thoseI mean, it's work, it's hard, I know, but the comfort zones of teaching. And she was talking about it and trying to talk about samples of other students' work and Viola had a realshe was veryfragmented in her approach toand like I said, and I'll say again, at her memorial service, I said, "If we""If I don't"the first thing I had to say, "If I can't get through this, or I speak in incomplete sentences, it's because Viola did, too, and we used to love to fill infinish each other's sentences, and fill in the blanks." [Laughs.]. NEIL WILLIAMS: And so I was the youngest. NEIL WILLIAMS: Sure, functional stuff, bowls and platters; trying to keep them interesting for myself. It's amazing some of that stuff was made and successfully made and not a piece got broken, and there was hundreds and hundreds of body parts travelling across country and for ceramics as a material, it traveled well, and it was successful, and it was tremendous. Well, we'll see. This interview is part of the Archives of American Art Oral History Program, started in 1958 to document the history of the visual arts in the United States, primarily through interviews with artists, historians, dealers, critics and administrators. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. 0000004953 00000 n
Speaking from his own experience, the Apostle shared six ways individuals can strengthen their faith in Jesus Christ throughout their lives. Well, okay, call, "What are you doing?" Would you say more about that? ", MIJA RIEDEL: Hmm. It was her first big coming out show since she'd hid out for nine years and just made work, put it in your backyard or up your attic orand, she was talking about the opening, "Well, I hope so-and-so's going to be there." You can only write about it in retrospect." It's in the family partnership and it's been a rental on and off since then. NEIL WILLIAMS: Certainly, getting to art school and studying art history and going to galleries and museums and seeing the incrediblewhat had comehad already come. Under Review. We thought he was going to have a stroke. But then again, I've heard there's some real idiots who have landed those positions, and have hung onto them. I don't want that to be too decorative. [Affirmative.] But I hope there's somethere's always, to me, some areas that need work. MIJA RIEDEL: Since we're talking about Rena and Dorothy Weiss, why don't we answer these questions about exhibitions, and your relationships with dealers over the years? I thought it started with the grandfather. Some of them were meant to be shooting stars, of course. NEIL WILLIAMS: She replaced me and my ladder with Sam and all kinds of hydraulic equipment. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. [Affirmative.] But sheespecially if she was tired or nervous, she would jump around and, you'd never know what would come out of her mouth. Going to church, continuing to take the sacrament, to find ways to serve others, to be around others, to bear your testimony, those are all ways you can be firmly planted within the flame of the gospel so that you are burning bright, Johnson said. You know, every five-year period, the work, there's this little jump. 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