ck2 best pagan religion

The lack of a formal religious tradition means that pagans have a harder time spreading their faith outside pagan lands. Access to Hermetic society (but Hermetics still suffer -10 temple opinion). Levy size & attack bonus from unreformed Tengri faith will be lost. Allows building the Sacrificial Altar feature of Great Temple, Great Stone Circle, Aztec Pyramid and Stonehenge, as well as the Grand Amphitheater. The only realm following this faith is the Zunbil Satrapy in western Afghanistan. Once your account is created, you'll be logged-in to this account. Nomads have their unique nomadic succession which does not split the realm like gavelkind. AI rulers only try to convert provinces if zealous. Wait. Proselytizing is a must pick if you have a lot of land with conversion resistant heathens, since AI rarely bothers converting them otherwise. It just looks so good: +80% Defense and +80% morale for all units if fighting at county of this religion. which is available immediately to Tribal realms with a reformed pagan religion). Incompatible with Agnatic Clans, Harmonious, Equality, Polygamy and Meritocracy doctrines. Every religion in the world pretty much tolerates you, it's pretty stable, and you can marry back into it to acquire bloodlines if you leave it somewhere to grow by itself. It basically removes any fear of a succession crisis ever again, and Enatic gets the slight edge by basically giving you a free subjugation/crusade option on pretty much any leader in the game due to the rarity of female rulers in general. Stability is in fact quite helpful and has nice synergies, but I wouldn't pick it standalone. You can join the Hermetics (without unpausing) via temporary conversion to an appropriate religion (eg. Eldership succession law is allowed. Pont Valentr Press J to jump to the feed. Reforming also provides access to the full set of feudal succession laws. Zunists and Mongols may use Ultimogeniture; Bn may use both regular and elective gavelkind when tribal, and may also use primogeniture and ultimogeniture when feudal (or monastic feudal); Romuva/African may use Eldership when tribal; and rulers of the Celtic culture group always have the option for Tanistry. As I said, civilized isnt good for Roman emperor as he is locked into imperial elective, and lets be honest, if we are reforming hellenic religion then we are 99% roman emperor, Problem, realize that I'm a couple months late, but stability is a doctrine, not a nature, sorry, that's bugging me, "I changed my mind about divine marriage doctrine, it actually allows us to breed new bloodlines fairly easy into our dynasty.". However, stability is very low, and you have little control over your realm. Only disadvantage is that AI rulers will never convert counties but you can do that yourself). With tribal mechanics, pagans cannot raise Tribal Organization very high without having severe relations penalty for tribal Unreformed Pagan vassals (-30 opinion with Absolute). The last playable Germanic ruler available is Arnfast of Vsterbotten, who dies in 1309. So I'm not a very big fan of Autonomous. Possibility for a woman to take consorts is disallowed even if other traits should unlock it. If fighting unreformed pagans is a priority after reformation, the Unrelenting doctrine or the Tengri equivalent (Eternal Riders) is recommended. Pagans may fight back in the name of the old gods, and even seek to eliminate the monotheists from Europe. Is AV and Temporal actually working in conjunction for you or you just marrying into the saints' lines? The version without a religious head and Great Holy War becomes a heresy and is called the "Old" version of the religion. it isnt meant to be celtic pagan or any pagan religion in particular. Pagan territories are usually significantly technologically behind all other cultures' territories, with the exception of Germanics having a tremendous lead in shipbuilding at the start of 867, as well as receiving said bonus after some time at the 769 start. Valve Corporation. If we pick it as germanic, tengri or aztec we will lose any troop bonus that we couldve inherited from unreformed religion. Bn (Bon) is an indigenous religion of the Tibetan plateau, added in patch 2.8. If a king of a faith stays true to the old ways, and many vassals convert to the new religion, this can cause tremendous upheaval in a nation, and lead to multiple, simultaneous and devastating deep revolts. Aztec religion only appears in-game if Sunset Invasion DLC is in use. Enatic-cognatic law is available. Great Holy War against a single disfigured child. For tribal pagans, reforming makes it easier to raise tribal organization. Its holy sites are scattered around the map but are mostly controlled by right religion, even in 1066 starting date. Bn is also unlocked by Jade Dragon, and Horse Lords allows playing of pagan nomadic rulers. Reformer becomes the first religious head, PDXCON Fun and flavourful doctrines or flat bonuses (infidel tax and monasticism) . For conquests Islam is way too OP if you're not a nomad. What options do you think is best for each, norse, slavic, tengri, etc? Table View Card View Great work!!! Bloodthirsty gods is very fun, we can get a bloodline, have our champion win several death matches, and we have access to Flower War cb which cripples enemy economy when we win. No female temple holders. Doubles the pool for good commanders and councillors and as a bonus you can give consorts to your daughters. Jainism without doubt. Romuva does not disappear from the world at any starting date, but will eventually be pushed back by Christians. Also I would totally put Survivors of Ukko higher. Ive heard it is currently bugged. Incompatible with Eternal Riders and Invaders doctrines. Depends on what you want. I might make a post in the future on how I think all the religions and doctrines could be improved/fixed to make them viable for both Fun and Power, but Ive written enough for now. Helps a lot when vs crusades or aztecs trying to meme on you. Except if you have founded bloodines with male rulers already. No females in the council. Sorry for the confusion. Rulers lose prestige when at peace for too long. Faith is widespread in earlier starting dates, among the multitude of petty rulers, but is in decline from 1066 onwards. Priests cannot marry and cannot inherit. Dogmatic: See above. The African faith is followed by the peoples of sub-Saharan Africa. Aztec religion has no special mechanics, having the usual set of Offensive Pagan mechanics. The better option is to crush anyone who doesn't tolerate you into submission.". )Best religion for gold income as liege : sunni Due to the additional tax from holdings in counties without Muslim religion. Edit: mixed it up, retaining matrilineal lines if you ever want to go back to male rulers will be trouble, not the other way around. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion, levy & garrison bonus from Unyielding nature or offensive bonus of Unrelenting doctrine in the first doctrine slot, it is lost. Blood sacrifices is super fun, esp. Diviner read signs before a war to try to improve troop morale. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion, levy & garrison bonus from Unyielding nature or offensive bonus of Unrelenting doctrine in first doctrine slot, it is lost. Unlocks Raiding if unavailable (e.g. Nature: Peaceful ( you will rule a massive empire as a Roman and will mostly have Vassal Kings. A generic Pagan faith is used in the history files to represent everyone from pre-Christian Irish kings to pre-Islamic Arabs. All Offensive pagans also gain a +30% bonus to their levy sizes, making up for likely lower technology and smaller fort holdings. I've gained several kingdoms w/o trying to; I was just trying to get their bloodlines in my main line. They then become the "Reformed" version. In fact, if they have high moral authority, and have damaged rival religions' moral authority with their conquests and stolen holy sites, or control unreformed pagan lands, they will soon be flooded with notices of conversions of territories that are held by their vassals, who will put forth serious effort to convert their lands to their new faith. This allows other pagans (especially Tengri and Germanic pagans) to fairly easily invade other pagans with conquest and subjugation casus belli. The Short Reign penalty is reduced to merely double the normal amount for Germanic pagans among the same Germanic faith, but Old Germanic pagans will have the full -45 penalty in addition to the heretic penalty. By doing a Pagan Reformation, the player decides to change the way their religion works for their CK2 playthrough. Certain pagans have access to additional succession laws. Pont Valentr Press J to jump to the feed. And raised levies opinion penalty only really counts if you are at war all the time. When you choose to play as a pagan ruler in CK2, you accept that there might be some problems (succession, levies, conversions) along the way that come with the advantages. Additionally, those defensive pagans who are tribal, may call forth Devout Warriors (without ). - Discussion. With the Holy Fury expansion, requirements for reformation remain unchanged, but the player may select four "traits" for religion, which affects the set of available mechanics for the religion and provides various bonuses. CK2 Pagan Reformation - Natures The first thing you will choose is one Nature. Also without Proselytizing my own vassals never bothered to spread their own religion. AI rulers are less likely to start wars, plots and factions. AI rulers will only convert same-group provinces. Sacrifice action (unless Peaceful). Because of this, it is usually strategically advisable to hold off on reforming your religion until your realm is at a multiple-kingdom level, and to make sure to exploit any subjugation or county conquest CBs against nearby easy target pagans before reforming your religion. West African religion is a blanket term for the diverse pagan beliefs of the tribes of Sub-Saharan West Africa. Late to the party but I like this one; for the purpose of acquiring bloodlines. Sometimes simple solutions are the best. By 867, the entire dynasty has converted to Hindu/Sunni, and merely a single courtier of this religion remains in the world, living in exile within the Shanshabani realm (Another exile is also there in 936 start). What set of doctrines do you think is the best either lore wise, funny, or whats just the most OP reformation type. Reformer gets a powerful artifact. After the 1200s, most of Lithuania is feudal and by 1337, it stands as the last pagan kingdom in Europe, surrounded by Teutonic Order, Golden Horde, Poland and Novgorod. You want to conquer followers of the Cross/Crescent anyways. Ilmen in 769 already holds Novgorod as its capital, is a decently strong start, and has the advantage of being able to flip to Russian culture once the faith is reformed, allowing the acquisition of the "Russkaya Pravda" achievement. I disagree here. This faith is exceptionally limited - it has all the disadvantages of unreformed paganism and none of the benefits, nor can it be reformed. Penalty to moral authority (-15%) and to mission. Have fun dealing with retaining those. 1. The reformed Pagan religions are usually pretty nice. But later, feudal realms grow their income more quickly, while raiding becomes less feasible as targets consolidate. In my game as a Zunist multi-emperor, I reformed with Warmongering, so conversion is very slow (maybe 20 provinces are converted, whereas I controlled half of the map), but that doesn't bother me : revolts are rare, and my vassals are converting them bit by bit. +40% garrison size at county of this religion. The Fun element of Proselytizing is that its the only nature that actively allows you to actively convert (outside of mass conversion events) foreign leaders to your religion. So if you like seeing dukes in the middle of other kingdoms take distant kingdoms and break out of their vassal king resulting in non stop dejure wars and infighting, then sure prepared invasions are for you (masochist). Animistic effects. Only if I could mark "Helpful" multiple times Is making your concubine who was a "raid-captured daughter of enemy duke" your vassal queen, and then murdering her an exploit? Inbreeding can be offset with concubines/polygamy. Full status of woman law is enforced. You are using an out of date browser. However, you may convert to an organized religion and change the succession law to the more useful (regular) gavelkind. Interactive corporate website, Monthly prestige +0.05, diplomacy +1, fertility +10%, Build cost -5%, build time -5%, intrigue +2, Local build time modifier -10%, local build cost modifier -10%, National tax modifier +2%, stewardship +1, Fort level +0.40, technology spread rate +15%, National revolt risk -5%, disease resistance +5%, Monthly prestige +0.03, learning +1, personal combat skill +5. Access to Hermetic society (but Hermetics still suffer -10 temple opinion). This is just a bonus I found by accident. The reformer's courtiers at home, dynasty members, and vassals will always follow in the reformation if they are below playable tier. Rurik Rurikid, Petty King of Holmgarr in 867, is the historical founder of the Russian Empire. Generic Pagan rulers cannot be created with Ruler Designer but there are few events in game which spawn Pagan courtiers to game, which permit granting of titles or education of children. Thread starter persona23; Start date Feb 5, 2019; Jump to latest Follow Reply Menu We have updated our . Zun can also be reformed like other pagan faiths. Here is an extensive CK2 guide about Pagan Reformation, where we explain all Natures, Doctrines, and Leadership options. +10% Attack for all units. If you want to play tall/stable, Peaceful is often better. The faith is in a strong position in the 769 start as north Africa is mainly ruled by tiny Muslim realms which can easily be conquered after consolidating your position in the south. Charlemagne starts I tried so far seem to be financially starved, since it takes forever to get the basic naval tech and start raiding proper. Raiding culture allows the use of armies to raid while fabricating claims, and still get piety for remaining at peace. Eternal Raiders will take away bonus for levy and light cavalry and give us 10% bonus attack for all our troops, don't know if its fair exchange, I will do maths later, and as I said polygamy just sucks and is a prestige drain, on top of that now tribals with polygamy mechanic (muslims and reformed pagans with polygamy) will use wife mechanics instead of concubines. "Why would you want infidels to tolerate you? The reason I don't like to pick it is that the bonuses apply to my vassals and makes them much stronger. Out of all the Succession Doctrines, Meritocracy is probably the safest. However, the longer the faith goes unreformed, the weaker it becomes. choosing Polygamy for Hellenism, which has no access to concubinage or choosing the Children of Perun doctrine to make use of major Russian rivers to transport armies). Best one in the loser tier. The love of battle among these pagans means that rulers incur no relation penalty with their vassals for having troops raised. Members; . Full status of woman law is enforced. (Especially after mass conversions.). Need the +3 demense to have enough personal levies and also +15 opinion combined with Augustus trait and Born in the Purple ( another +15 opinion) is pretty OP. All other ideologies are trash. For every pagan religion there is a special Doctrine, unique only to them, that is most often than not more powerful than normal Doctrines. Bloodthirsty Gods effects. While its holy sites are in locations which are easily taken, most of them lack a temple holding which means holy sites only give half of the usual Moral Authority, forcing Tengri rulers to either build temples or take control of all holy sites. I've had games where several centuries have gone by and literally only one or two guys have been made Venerated Ancestors and they're usually some random idiot. The other pagan faiths have a duke-level religious leader who becomes a vassal of the reforming ruler, similar to the Orthodox religion's patriarch. Crusader Kings II. I rank Ancestor Veneration as tier 1 because of the eldership succesion it provides, sainthood is just nice bonus for it. They must switch to elective gavelkind if they wish to declare Subjugation or Tribal Invasion wars. Though, Unyielding isnt perfect. Ruler do not receive opinion penalties for raised vassal levies. They also cannot reform to Feudalism or a Merchant Republic unless they Reform or convert to a non-pagan religion. If we pick it as germanic, tengri or aztec we will lose any troop bonus that we couldve inherited from unreformed religion. Acquiring the faith to begin with requires you to convert religions or use Ruler Designer, and its holy sites are split up between the Italia, Britannia, Spain, Francia, and Maghreb. Bear in mind that in 1066, Novgorod is Christian, and the Rurikid dynasty which holds it has multiple potential allies from other dynasty members. Invaders are only here because they have 3 shitty doctrines that are good when they are packed in one slot. In game terms, all pagan religions fall into one of two broad groups, with a few exceptions - the offensively-oriented Germanic, Hellenic (Greco-Roman), Tengri and Aztec faiths, and the defensively-oriented Romuva (Baltic), Slavic, Suomenusko (Finnish), African, and Bn (Tibetan) faiths. Its full potential is available when we are huge feudal empire and rely more on our vassal levies. In 800 CE. However, it only applies to the homeland, and pagans have difficulty converting provinces due to low. I admit I have not played Hellenic yet but it sounds awesome to me. Civilised is closer to tier 3 than tier 1, if we pick this doctrine as Roman Emperor we will never use its full potential as we are locked in Imperial Elective succession. Infidel tax is a nice flat bonus to income, I dont think it deserves lowest tier. Unlocks Raiding if unavailable (eg Hellenic). Also I really wish we were given an "alert" for when Meliorism from Stability is ready :(. Thread starter Mr. Moonlight; Start date Sep 13, . Answered, CK2 (Crusader Kings II): Immortality Event ID and Guide, CK2 (Crusader Kings II): Strange Chest Item and Event Results. Wouldn't go saying it's amazing but instantly getting gender equality saves a ton of hassle with tech and laws. Feudal unreformed pagans typically use gavelkind succession. Low MA will hurt you bad tho unless you're in middle east. Some Religions (Germanic) keep +30% Levies when they reform and will only loose it through unyielding. All defensive pagans have access to Ancestor Worship & Choose Patron deity decision. Unrelenting cannot be picked with unyielding, and it cancels out any unreformed levy or troops bonus. Also Hellenic religion lacks concubines. +80% Defense and +80% morale for all units if fighting in county of this religion. But you're right, in some situations it's really powerful. Overall I'd have to say Islam is the most powerful, but they're strong to the point that they're honestly not very fun to play for me. With the exception of the reformed Germanic religion, the faith will also immediately gain a holy order. Despite similarities between autonomous reformed paganism and Dharmic religions (followers of both has religious branch trait), the former still needs to deal with heresy (old pagan religion), while the latter has no heresies. No female temple holders. With A Crown Of Thorns, You Became My King Forever. Enatic law is enforced, open succession law is unlocked. Lose piety when at war against faithful.Penalty to Spymaster steal technology. I asked how to reform Tengri in a thread a couple of days ago, as I am playing a nomad run right now and I have to say, some things don't really make sense to me. You have the pentarchy system, a patriarch if you are king tier or higher, no pope who steals your money, no overpowered crusades and the like etc. Holy Fury Pagan Reformation Tier List & Discussion, Holy Ghost Spirit isnt being talked about enough, Both my character and Christianity are based. Pagans are able to hold religious feasts (except Tengri/African). Reforming the religion will cause a schism in the pagan faith. Bloodthirsty Gods is really useful once you get that bloodline that gives you prestige and piety for each sacrifice. Pagans follow the old polytheistic traditions, spurning the Abrahamic and Indian religions' talk of a segregation between physical and spiritual realms in favor of polytheistic physical gods. With Holy Fury, each pagan faith (except Aztecs) has an associated Warrior Lodge, a society focused on combat. The below table contains all 53 religions from Crusader Kings II, along with all religion IDs, for use in console commands such as religion. Also, nomads are often an exception due to their unique mechanics. The Germanic reformer becomes the Fylkir, a ducal-level secular leader similar to an Islamic Caliph. Absolute cognatic succession is enforced. Pagan religions retain some features when reformed, regardless of the features chosen during reformation. Pretty useless outside india but with gavelkind sucession you can have a demesene of twenty counties. When you reform a pagan religion, and get high enough moral authority, other pagan empires might ask your help in converting them to your . Hellenic paganism was the faith of the Greco-Roman world before the rise of Christianity. Thats all for now! Also Temporal gives u cool(gives tons of piety and prestige per month) lvl 4 artifact . In the north, start in Novgorod, Poland, or Kiev and form your corresponding de jure kingdom first, then work your way to the other two holy sites. Sacrificing prisoners unlocks special traits, actions, and a bloodline that grants Prestige for sacrifices as well. Sons of Ragnarok is combination of two bad doctrines, if we dont pick it, we will still retain ability to have viking trait and coastal county conquest cb, however, we will lose river sailing and prepared invasion ability which we dont need later in game ( and AI can close rivers for us by having enough fort level in river counties). Marry 4 women with good traits, then pick the best kid that pops out. Women can take up to 3 consorts. Sacrificing prisoners unlocks special traits, actions, and a bloodline that grants Prestige for sacrifices as well. Heir Designation is allowed (if at least one of. I've played as African pagan a lot since HF dropped and I'd never ever take TG over AV. Alternatively, feudal kings and emperors can enact the "Full Council Authority" law and adopt feudal elective succession. Patron Deities, Ancestor Worship. Please help with verifying or updating older sections of this article.At least some were last verified for version 3.0. It says we can spend piety to improve curtier abilities but we can do it once per 5 years and can improve stat for one point. Each one can only occur at a certain, and different, time each year. I wish it was more interactive (e.g. There is a trait that gives u another +5 same religion opinion. I'm still mad how badly Shia got shafted over the development of the game. Any tribal leader, whose religion is pagan unreformed, neighbouring a realm whose leader's religion is organized - e.g. Rulers can order subject to Take the Vows. Totems and Dievas have that good succesion law going for them. My guide was more aimed at the casual/experienced player rather than the hardcore veteran (hardcore veterans don't need guides/tierlists!). By PegaluxX, January 4, 2019 in Crusader Kings 2. Characters get a Rite of Passage when reaching adulthood. For best run: The High Chieftess of Kiev in 769 reforming Slavic to be Enatic Clans is a stupidly fun run that I've been doing a lot of. Warmongering: I think most of us are familiar with it, because unreformed Germanics and Tengri have it. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. . "Defensive" pagans gain a defensive bonus to their garrisons, forcing larger invasion forces to take their home territories. Another approach is to try new mechanics (to pick Haruspicy, Animism, Veneration) or to add useful abilities to existing faiths (e.g. The religious head can decide upon death to. Proselytizing: I will be honest, I never picked it. It is not normally playable (even with Ruler Designer), but can be played using mods or by exploiting loopholes. AI rulers are less likely to start wars, plots and factions. With Holy Fury, Zunists can raid after reformation, as long as the reformed faith does not have the Peaceful nature. Reformed religions gain access to holy wars, usable on any target of a different faith (including other pagans). Suomenusko, religion of the Finno-Ugric people stretches from the Baltic Sea to Siberia. Religious Control Mandate law is unavailable. Disagree. The ability to raid makes some pagans uniquely wealthy in the early game. As I recall stability+astrology also has a synergy where you get to boost your heir at birth. Just know ahead of time that the owner of the title can't marry or be betrothed unless they have another title like count or something. Bn is also unlocked by Jade Dragon, and Horse Lords allows playing of pagan nomadic rulers. Agnatic law is enforced, open succession law is unlocked. Great Holy War against a single disfigured child. The Slavic faith is almost gone in the 1066 starting date, and the faith disappears from the world entirely by 1200. Equality allows the player to not only land females, but also to get even higher scores since female dynasts could have consorts, who as concubines provides prestige. Because raiding counts as war, and they have county conquest casus belli that require no reason for war, however, few rulers need find themselves short on wars for long. Romuva is the faith of the peoples on the east coast of the Baltic Sea, worshiping such deities as Dievas, Perkunas, and Laima. Ilmen is also surrounded primarily by weak Suomenusko and Romuva pagans and is shielded by an ocean from the Norse until the Viking Age event triggers, giving plenty of time to solidify power. Zunist mechanics are a hybrid of defensive/offensive pagans and organized religions. It's aimed at more of the casual/intermediate player. Pagans can grant themselves divorces at will, but with a significant cash payment for the divorce and a -30 relation penalty to the divorcee's family. And you can make a chain of your demesne inside the silk trade route. + Bloodthirsty Gods, Seabound, Unrelenting. Aztec Pyramid construction. For example, players who seek to reduce internal conflicts in their country, but still want to expand their boundaries, could use the following culture/religion/doctrine combination: Altaic culture, Tengri, Peaceful, Stability, Equality, Autonomous. PegaluxX. Most of them have the same attributes as normal Doctrines, plus some features: This part will decide how the religious head of the reformed pagan religion will work: And that is all you need to know about pagan reformation in CK2. But if you want to expand, Unyielding is not that useful . Astrology also enables Hermetic society which puts it up there with the notable doctrines for me. Additionally, Unyielding is a bit of a jack of all trades if you want to blob, Proselyting is better for converting provinces. Most pagans may raid neighboring provinces (and coastal provinces, if ships are available) for loot and prestige, even without a tribal government (which majority of the pagans are). Also unrelenting is heavily underrated. Religious Control Mandate law is unavailable.AI rulers will not convert provinces. CK2 Cheats CK2 Province IDs CK2 Event IDs Other CK2 IDs and Codes CK2 Blog Type the name of a title, or a title ID, into the search box below to instantly search our database of title IDs. The Slavic faith is followed, as the name suggests, by the Slavic peoples of Europe. Eldership Succession law is available, Bloodthirsty Gods + Seabound + Unrelenting, Rulers do not receive opinion penalties for raised vassal levies + Syncretism + Meritocracy. If that bloodline gets passed down it's a great way to boost up prestige in the early reign of your descendants. [1] These are not immediately obvious before reformation, or even immediately upon reformation. Agnatic, agnatic-cognatic, cognatic laws are restricted. They start as feudal, are unable to raid, have lesser chance to convert county religion, do not suffer from increased short reign penalties and may use ultimogeniture succession law instead of gavelkind. When you finally select to reform the religion, you will have to choose from many Natures and Doctrines which ones will represent you. I think that'd be the best. Ruler does not receive opinion penalties for raised vassal levies. I enjoy and make videos of strategy games, RPGs, and more usually in the form of crazy challenge runs, character roleplaying, or other ways to spice things up. Incompatible with Harmonious, Agnatic Clans and Enatic Clans doctrines. Traits inherited from unreformed religion. ( But Imperial Succession is nearly same as heir designation so you may want to pick the Religious tax doctrine to get tons of cash. The other side of the coin is that peace is seen as unbecoming. 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